Help and advice from mums?

Hi, I have been a part of this online community since last year having lost my partner of 8 years in May 2025.

I am putting this out there in the hope I might be able to get some guidance from parents. Please remove if this is not allowed and I’m sorry it’s long x

My partner was a 30 year old man and he died while we were overseas on a holiday.

He suffered with mental health issues for much of his life, he had undiagnosed learning issues, a brain cyst that he struggled with, even though it was not life limiting at all, and he grew up in a difficult environment with addiction issues (alcohol) present in the home, as well as lots of materialistic issues from bankruptcy and basically “drama” from all that. His teenage years were really not good, and we talked about it often. He tried professional talking therapies over our years together, but he’d get to a point and then stop because it was all too painful.

There was much initial shock, trauma and questions following his death. I found him, called for help, kept him breathing until that help arrived, but sadly he died.

We returned to the UK and a Postmortem was done. We did not do one overseas as both his parents (and I at the time) said they didn’t want this. They felt they just wanted him home quickly, and due mostly to his mums (then) ill health I went along with almost everything they wanted over the coming months.

The UK postmortem showed historical damage to his heart which the coroner categorised as “lifestyle choice” based damage. This is because he took drugs from a young age (12/13) was a heavy drinker (and smoker before we meet) was overweight, and the hospital he was admitted to overseas found 3 separate substances in a urine test they did.

A toxicology report could not be completed here due to the level of embalming required to return a body to the uk so we don’t know amounts of anything in his system.

Because of all this there will always be questions and to protect everyone the coroner had to I suggest heart tests for close family. It’s their duty but I (and he having spoken to him) believe completely unnecessary.

My initial belief was that he had taken some of the drugs knowingly, but may well have been unaware of one substance we think was in a drink he brought.

However. Things never felt right and after my return to the uk I found a letter tucked into the book I had been reading from him as well as some of the type of drug found in his system hidden in our home. I have never taken drugs and had always struggling with these things being in our lives at all!

The letter does not read well, and while it is not specific to a method, it is clearly a goodbye, mentioning how he feels, what life was like, thanking me, and telling me he will always be with me.

That along with early payment of our bills, a poem found on my phone, the events of our last day together (he wanted to give me “the best day” he said for the last one of our holiday), his words, and the fact I now know from his medical records of more serious historical drug issues, and attempts to take his own life in the past, I believe his death was not accidental.

It’s an awful realisation. I am getting help.

What I am struggling with is this.

I am carrying this alone, and his parents do not know the whole story.

My relationship with them has almost broken down as I can’t be around listening to the narrative they have created in their heads and as people, we are not alike in values etc.

I struggling with his brothers and sisters now too partly because of how I feel about their parents (not that they don’t agree!) who I feel let down him and his brother badly. His younger brother has had issues with substances since childhood too. I love them dearly however as did their brother and hope to continue to speak etc.

His parents are telling people he had a “heart condition”, they lied to the vicar conducting his funeral, to their friends, and they want their remaining children to take heart tests that they don’t want.

I went along with it all at first, and agreed to what they said they needed events and resting place wise.

Now his parents rarely speak to me which was incredibly hurtful over Christmas as I (the only executor/named NOK in his will) gave a gaming machine to a friend of his who in turn made a donation to his nominated charity. They feel this should have gone back to them, as they gave it to him (second hand) as a birthday gift. Frankly it’s unbelievable since his brother tells me the siblings don’t care, none of them are gamers, and I feel it was just something to create an issue with me over. I’m very sure my partner would have been ok with my choice to rehome the machine.

I feel much of this is because they just don’t understand what actually happened.

I know his mum especially is struggling day to day (as am I) but I at least know the truth, and can try to move forward with acceptance, honestly and love. How do you do that without?

My question is - Do I tell her/them what I have?

I’m not a mum to a child I raised in life. I had a still birth many years ago, but feel I would want to know everything if I was in this position so I could know what happened to my child. Indeed I pushed at the time I list my little girl for answers. I never got them but at least I tired.

How do you heal without that and what if one day she pushes more with questions when I need to be moving on?

Any advice would be so gratefully received as I’m lost…,

I just want the truth told about my amazing partner, with none of the lies he hates, as while you may be reading this with preconceptions of a man who took drugs at certain points in his life, he was the kindest, loving man I’ve ever meet.

He was worth so much more than the addictions he suffered with and the start in life he had and I loved him dearly.

Thank you all xxx

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What a difficult position you are in.

It doesn’t sound as if his parents are coping with their existing understanding, and it may get even more difficult for them, and for you, if you share this.

We so far have chosen not to request the coroners report about our daughter - and the only reason would be if it might be relevant for other family members. There was a question by a family member GP that there was an outside chance of her undiagnosed heart condition being family related) and I and my sons have been tested. I believe it would be upsetting and, regardless of the content, our daughter would still be dead. I felt at the time, and still feel, that if would be natural to pinpoint so many times where we or she might have done things differently, nd wonder if it might have lead to a different outcome BUT we couldn’t and can’t turn the clock back.

I think differently to many, in that I would try to think about what might be achieved

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My post was interrupted and i then I couldn’t edit or delete - sorry!

Bubbles76 What a difficult position you are in and it must have been so traumatic for you at the time, and as it has evolved. Sending hugs.
It doesn’t sound as if his parents are coping with their existing level of understanding, and it would almost certainly get even more difficult for them, and maybe for your relationships, if you share this. You have been generous towards his family. Giving a friend his gaming machine may have felt to them as giving another bit of him away - I don’t think there’s any sense or logic to emotional responses to belongings…
Our daughter died suddenly of an undiagnosed heart condition at 32. She had other health problems including MS. We so far have chosen not to request the coroners report about our daughter - and the only reason would be to get a sealed copy in case it might be relevant for other family members. There was a query by a family member GP that there was an outside chance of her undiagnosed heart condition being family related, and I and my sons have been tested.
Getting more detail in the report might, I believe, be more upsetting and, regardless of the content, our daughter would still be dead.
I felt at the time, and still feel, that if would be natural to pinpoint so many times where we or she might have done things differently, and wonder if it might have lead to a different outcome BUT we couldn’t and can’t turn the clock back. Blaming or holding ourselves responsible wouldnt change this. So yes, we did wonder but I felt we needed to try to focus on moving forward rather than reflecting on “what if’s”.
We told everyone our daughter lived her life, with health problems, as fully as possible - as did your partner. (Mental health is as big a hurdle as many physical conditions).
I think differently to many, in that I would try to think about what might be achieved if you shared this. We shared some info, to help others understand Niamh’s life journey. I also try to think what our daughter would have thought or done. She was not finished with life - she had plans - and would encourage us to celebrate the life she had, be sad that it was so short, and to carry on living as fully as we are able.
That’s a bit of a ramble - definitely based on my feelings in our situation. We wanted to acknowledge our daughter in a “warts and all” way, her funeral was like that, but I’m not sure it would have helped me if new information somehow made me feel more responsible or culpable than I already did.
Finally, if you haven’t accessed counselling you might find it useful - having a completely neutral person to talk to might be helpful. It is such a tough bit of knowledge to carry alone.
Sending hugs.

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I just wanted to say thank you so much for your reply. I am so very sorry for your loss. You sound like a decent, kind, and loving mother, and I’m sure will honour your daughter whatever you share. I am so sorry….

Yes, I am discussing this with my grief councillor and I have no wish to make anyone feel in worse (if that’s possible!) about the circumstances surrounding his loss.

I guess if I’m honest I’m hurt by their focus. I don’t feel it’s on him, but rather on items, and appearances and on yet more lies.

They did see the report and his mother has said she wants to know every thing which makes me feel I’m keeping things, but you might be right. He’s still gone.

I gave so much that I felt they saw as being entitled to (I don’t see it that way as he was an adult and our lives were together) and a continuous declaration by his mother that “she is his NOK” I didn’t cope will with given his life before me was (from his own words) spent not being listened too.

I brought their son home, I had to watch him leave us, and I loved and cared for him for 8 years. I guess I just wish they understood, but maybe it would make no difference to the stories they tell, or to their treatment of me.

Thank you again…I will keep thinking and talking…I really appreciate you taking the time to respond x :folded_hands:

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Thank you - like everyone online I’m just trying to get through - often day by day. You have tried your hardest with them and that’s as much as anyone can do. Well done as sometimes I’msure it had been the last thing you want to do…

Reading your reply reminded me of my own mum when my brother died in an RTA where he lived in Germany . She was extremely awkward and difficult with everyone when we were in family situations where the “empty chair” was obvious. Never about my brother himself, but it was her way of lashing out that anyone could be normal. She simply had no skills to cope. Occasionally she went too far, and we’d try to cajole her.

My brother’s widow found a new partner - my dad was philosophical but she was even more hurt - and difficult.

We all learned to accept it. X

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I lost my daughter when she was 21.
We all grieve in different ways because our relationships are unique to us but as a mother I feel I lost it all. The devastation is indescribable. I cannot contemplate losing any more of my daughter so I cling on to every piece of her that is left. Toothbrush, bus tickets, pocket fluff, you name it I’ve kept it.
Your partners parents may want the same and that may include memories that aren’t always true. It hurts beyond pain to think your actions/inactions or words could have caused your child to suffer, it hurts even more to know you will never get the chance to right those wrongs or to apologise for them.
You have been very kind and understanding while enduring all the trauma and pain of your own loss.
Ask yourself how would you feel if you told your partners parents everything?
If it will make things worse for everyone then maybe the best thing to do is carry the burden a little longer xx

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