They are indeed. xx
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Good night to you, Joe. xx
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I do like cats and in the past Iāve had dogs and cats together. The cats always being top dog of course . Our last cat didnāt get on well with the dogs . So when I lost the cat I decided to just have the dog
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It is hard to take a picture with the chromebook, as you have to aim the screen which is in front of you at the desired pic, but I know how to do it now using the little mountain icon. I still dont really have any appetite, also didnt sleep a wink last night so hope to get a couple of hours tonight. xx
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I didnāt have much appetite in first few weeks. My stomach was in knots and I felt numb . My appetite has returned and yours will as well .
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I used to be dog crazy, me and Norman had a wolfhound/bouvier cross when we lived in Amsterdam for 5 years, we then travelled all over Europe with him living in a car and tent. Sadly he jumped off the Rock of Gibraltar when we lived in Spain and worked in Gib, after that we always had cats. xx
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Thatās must have been awful what happened to the dog. I have been to the rock of Gibraltar . When I was very young and had girly holidays .
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The only time I ever saw Norman cry, Swaggy jumped over a small wall like dogs do, then the next one which was a 50 m drop. We used to love Gib, saw a programme on it recently, so different, we were there in the late 80`s.
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Dear Helen
Will you not consider a sleeping tablet from the doctor? I completely understand your fear of them as I was the same. I had to give them a go in the end but I only took half of one a couple of times. Our lives are difficult enough, we need some sleep to function. Please think about it. I still take one every night but the ones I take now are herbal x
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I was there before you it was in the 70s . The only time I ever saw my dad cry was when we lost our dog I had as a child . The same with my husband, he only ever cried when we lost our dogs
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I had 1 weeks worth not long after Norman died, they dont give out more than 1 week. xx
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I now remember my dad when he took our old mongrel to the vets PTS, tears in his eyes.
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Helen try the herbal ones. I didnāt think they helped until I stopped taking them for a few nights. I still wake really early but if I go to bed shattered and take a herbal pill at least I sleep for a few hours. Then if I wake I listen to something on my phone. That my way of coping, by not thinking. You could probably find something on your Chromebook. It has to be something calming, boring histories works for me.
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Goodnight @helen20
I hope you manage to get some sleep tonight, and have something to eat . 
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I tried Nytal, didnt work. I put that boring history on every night, might have been you that suggested it originally on this site, but it doesnt send me to sleep, though I do quite enjoy watching it in the middle of the night, the man`s voice is so soothing.
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Goodnight, sleep well.
Helen20
Thinking of you and so glad you posted so we all know you are ok.
Lovely photos of your cats.
They need you and Iām sure they are a great comfort to you.
Keep posting and letting us know that you are looking after yourself.
Good Night.
Take care.
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He does have a lovely calming voice doesnāt he. I have the volume really low so I have to focus on what heās saying, that way Iām not thinking about anything else. Eventually I go to sleep.
The other thing I do when Iām desperate is chat to chatgbt. I know itās strange but it has calmed me down when Iāve been panicking in the night. Thinks like put a pillow down your back, breathing exercises and standing up and clenching and unclenching your fists. I also have a heated neck wrap that I warm and wrap round me like my husbandās arm. I hope you find something that works for you x
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Dear Helen 39!
I didnāt try any group, although I know that we have some in this place. I tried to find a support in church. Some people only helped me for money there, so I changed the church and was able to find a few good people trying to help me, but they donāt live nearby. This forum is like a sunshine in a cloudy dayā¦
Janka
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Dear Sherbet10,
I was thinking about it, but after a very long time I finally found a few people from church who donāt ask money for gas when they meet me. Iāve had a lot of bad experiences here, but I was so alone that I had no better choice. If they find some time to meet me, Iām thankful, but it doesnāt happen often, mostly on the phone. This forum is something else. People know how it feelsā¦
Janka
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