Omg that is so wicked ! I would like to come and whack him myself !! My daughter due a baby in march funnily enough ,and i have no idea if i will see him either … she won’t answer her phone and i took her and my grandaughter to tenerife ( i paid);just 2 months ago. We had a big row cos i dont like way she treats me … and now she wont even answer her phone so i have no idea if i will see the baby or not ! Shes 35… i really think its these in laws … they get their claws in and they interfere and want it all to themselves !!
My mum says leave em where they are or another way of saying it is - bugger them !!
Theyre not worth it ! Let him go. Dont speak to him until baby is born and then see what happens ! This generation are so very awful ! And as @David67 there is no app for grief so obviously we dont follow the rule book do we ? I told my eldest daughter (2 daughters) - google grief and see what it says ! I bet she hasnt even bothered !!! Xx
That is so disgusting
He isn’t the only grieving. I cannot believe he will not allow you to see your new grandson. So sorry for you x
Deb5.that shows no respect for how you feel.there not the only ones who are grieving. I feel guilty for being able to see my great-grandson cj now .so sorry for you all
Yep got it in one ! No respect ! But dont feel guilty … you are just lucky that you have a nice family ! Seems to me the more you give the more they take, take, take … they are just entiitled little p****s 
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@Ladysuisei6
Wow!! Just Wow!! Weaponising a child before its born!! There is going to come a time in the future when he needs you and i guarantee he will be on his knees begging forgiveness!!
Your behaviour isnt strange, you are grieving!!
FFS!! I dont know where or how people get off on behaving like that!! Are they adults though?
Any adult i know would not behave in such a callous fashion. Does it come from developing a sense of entitlement in this day and age? That’s something more noticeable in the age of social media and trying to keep up with unsustainable lifestyles and the sh*t attitudes that go hand in hand with it!!
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
Take care & stay strong x
Thanks @Angel1309 but really dont need all this when im still grieving … its not fair. My mum has been good at least ! You can chose your friends but not your family …!! Aint that the truth … x
Yep you made some good points there !
@Deb5
I have mastered the art of acceptance that with some people, both friends and family, that the problem lies with them and not Me!! If you want to be a part of my life then that’s great,i look forward to that! If you dont, then hey!! Guess what? I am not going to lose any sleep over it!! I have been and am still going through one of the hardest life events on offer!! If you want to play your silly games, play them just dont expect me to respond or be affected by them. Now, have a nice life!!
Something pretty close to that said to some stepfamily members a couple of weeks after My wifes funeral.
That’s so true you can choose your friends but not your family - I have to remind myself now and then unfortunately.
Take care x
@Deb5 ni my so is like that - if I pointed him in the direction of facts he wouldn’t want to know . He just makes his own rules up , he wouldn’t bother reading it either . In fact, one messy conversation we had involved him telling me I couldn’t use grief as an excuse for bad behaviour. Well firstly my behaviour hasn’t been bad . Second, how DARE he disrespect Baz like this by using him to justify an argument.
Oh no you’re possibly in the same situation with your new grand baby too 
these kids are atrocious. Their behaviour is outrageous and fancy using an unborn child as a stick to beat your mother with . He’s absolutely wicked . I love him because he’s my son but I really don’t like him any more . Don’t get me into the DIL and her mother ………… I’ll be tearing my hair out .
Why did our poor men have to leave us Deb ?
Sending you love
@Angel1309 I never would have expected that a major death in the family would potentially cause so many people so much angst . On top of the grief we all experience and deal with in different ways , we have this to contend with . It’s shocking and makes the grief so much worse I find
Take care xxx
@Martyn2 yes it certainly hasn’t improved my situation. On top of trying still to come to terms with the loss of Baz , this is like another different type of bereavement. It’s so upsetting,
Thank you for your support xxx
I dunno why they had to go ;( but i do know they wouldn’t dare act like this with their father here - he wouldnt stand for it !! men have a sort of invisible power in these situations dont they ? I think their word is more respected …yes their behaviour is atrocious but they just cant see it can they because of their own bloody arrogance ! Completely block your son now until that baby is born and then maybe make a move to try see the baby - don’t let him wind you up !! Thsts what im trying to do !! X
@David67 well you’ve raised some good points there . It goes without saying that weaponising an unborn child is frankly sick behaviour which I now try my best to ignore .
As I’ve been looking up a few of these strange phrases my son tends to use ( energy vampire , body autonomy etc ) I’ve noticed so many things in passing that the yoof of today say . There’s so much downright selfish articles on say , setting boundaries to “ protect your mental health “ . If I’d have said this to my parents when I was a lot younger I’d have got a clip round the ear and told to grow up . Also , I suspect that my son is looking for justification to go “ no contact “ ( another trendy phrase ) . This justification is say , your parents are harassing you by sending too many texts . I’ve been threatened with this , citing I’m causing them “ harm “ and I need to validate ( another one !) their experiences. Honestly it’s like going to bed and waking up 100 years in the future where the whole structure of normal language is changed . I’m constantly googling these mysterious words and phrases and like you say , they seem to struggle with anything unless there’s an app for it ,
On a more serious note my partner would have been absolutely furious with my son for suddenly turning into a complete knob ,
Take care xxx
@Deb5 well blocking him won’t do anything as he doesn’t ring me !!
You are right though about men having invisible power . Baz wouldn’t stand for Dan being nasty or rude to me so he didn’t do it . Dans become so bloody arrogant and entitled I am wondering if he might have narcissistic personality disorder like @David67 mentioned earlier . That thought had already crossed my mind . Either that , or he’s suddenly decided to turn into a complete knob for his 31st birthday. There’s a distinct possibility this could be the case !!
Take care xxx
I mean block him from your mind ! And yeh i suspect it is the latter ! Lol xx
You made me laugh ! And sounds just like my kids ! God theyre so pathetic ! No back bone at all these days … what do they call em !! Snowflakes and the higher their educated the worse they are if you ask me @ what the hell do they teach them at uni … certainly not to respect your parents - who bloody got them there in the first place ! Excuse me !!
@Deb5 yeah funny you should say that but my Little Snowflake has got a physics phD . He should be doing his GCSE’s though judging by the way he acts
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